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Bloggers Want Clarity

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After the Obama campaign put out a statement from a spokesman on Senator Obama's position on a potential filibuster of bad FISA legislation and Senator Clinton herself was asked about it in a press availability, it's become clear that the consensus among the progressive bloggers who have been fighting long and hard on this issue is that the two just have not provided a clear answer on what they will do.

As the two statements were first being digested, Matt Stoller of Open Left wrote:

[A]t certain moments in history, principled clarity is what's required in a political leader. America is in a bad situation, and it's problematic that our leaders have and continue to betray us at all levels. I suppose clarity isn't required all the time, but it is surprising that neither Clinton nor Obama could offer clarity on such an obvious matter.

Big business shouldn't be allowed to break the law. It's not a tough call, and it doesn't require caveats.

This morning, Glenn Greenwald delivers a long, searing indictment of Obama and Clinton for failing to lead against retroactive immunity, let alone be clear about where they stand, in contrast to Chris Dodd's decisive leadership.

These statements are just manipulative and woefully insufficient. Leadership is about standing and galvanizing support for fundamental principles. And there just is no more fundamental issue than the rule of law principles and basic constitutional guaranteees that will be eviscerated -- still further -- if telecoms are granted retroactive amnesty and relieved of all obligations from having broken the law for years.

Amnesty will single-handedly ensure that the most transparent act of Bush law-breaking -- warrantless eavesdropping and illegal spying on millions of Americans -- will not only go unpunished, but will also remain un-investigated forever. Telecom amnesty will provide Bush and Cheney with full and virtually insurmountable protection from any consequences for their illegal spying. Sitting around hiding on this issue, playing fun semantic games, and clearly signalling a fear of being involved at all is actually grotesque, especially for candidates who claim that they are running in opposition to the excesses and abuses of the last six years.

The issue here for Clinton and Obama is clear and simple and permits no equivocation: Will you support a filibuster of any bill that grants retroactive immunity to telecoms for enabling the Bush administration to spy illegally on Americans? There is absolutely no reason why they should be unable to answer that question in a clear, straightforward and unconditional manner. What they ought to be doing is leading on this issue -- taking a principled stand for the rule of law and our constitutional liberties and leading the Senate in a filibuster to stop this travesty. But since they are leaving that to Dodd, they ought to at least issue a clear statement as to their positions here. [Emphasis in the original]

Greenwald goes further and reminds his readers that once Dodd took leadership on this issue by promising to place a hold, then a filibuster on a bad bill, Senator Biden unequivocally committed his support. That is, the question being asked, "Will you support a filibuster of any bill that grants retroactive immunity to telecoms for enabling the Bush administration to spy illegally on Americans?" is neither complex nor difficult to answer.

Scarecrow at FireDogLake continues the blogospheric push back by drawing distinctions between Chris Dodd's leadership and those that are grudgingly following along. He also notes that Senators Feingold and Biden were quick to stand with Dodd and goes on to write:

There’s a huge difference between people who are actual leaders and who happen to want to be President, and people who want to be President so they can be the leader. We’re seeing that difference right now in the debate over whether the FISA bill will award retroactive immunity to the telecoms for their complicity in the Bush Administration’s illegal spying programs.
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These are the Democratic Party’s true leaders. They understand that defending the Constitution is their first duty as citizens and elected officials. They did not wait to see which way the wind was blowing or see what their colleagues (or other candidates) might say or check to see if they might be supported. They knew what needed to be said and done and that’s what they did.

I think all of these posts get at the outrage towards Senators Obama and Clinton for failing to state clearly where they stand on what is really an issue so fundamental that it still boggles the mind that we're even talking about it. Amnesty for telecommunications companies, as Greenwald noted above, will prevent us from ever finding out the full extent of what information these companies surrendered to the Bush administration and how far the government went in violating the privacy and civil liberties of the American citizenry in direct contravention to the law.

The fight to stop retroactive immunity is far from over. We know where Chris Dodd stands. We know many leading bloggers stand with him on this. If these posts are any indication, the netroots is not going to abandon this fight, either.

Democrats’ so-called leaders are not leading on Iraq

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Senator Dodd has an op-ed out today on the differences between the Democratic presidential candidates on ending the war in Iraq and getting all US troops out before 2013. The op-ed is appearing in both The Huffington Post and Manchester Union-Leader.

Read the full text of Senator Dodd's op-ed below the fold.

The Differences Are Real

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Dodd vs The Field on 2013

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This clip is from Wednesday night's MSNBC debate at Dartmouth College.

Update:
Joh Padgett at Blue Indiana writes on the 2013 question:

Anyone who is considering voting for Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama and that considers themselves to be antiwar is delusional if they think their candidate will get us out of Iraq before this decade is out. Chris Dodd clearly and unequivocally stated on the record as you see in that video that he will not have troops stationed in Iraq at the beginning of a second term.

Enough is enough people, if you are backing Hillary or Obama and getting out of Iraq is your main priority then its time you quit measuring this race, hike up your big boy/big girl pants, be an adult and choose to back a candidate that will get us out of Iraq for real.

Amen, Joh!

2013

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Last night's debate brought the issue of residual forces in Iraq to the front and center Democratic presidential campaign. The candidates presented their differing views on whether or not they would have all us troops out of Iraq by the end of their first term in office -- 2013 -- six years from now.

Sadly, there was little difference between the "top tier" candidates, as Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards all said they will not have ended our involvement in Iraq by 2013.

Six years from now.

Blogger Jeffrey Feldman writes:

The top-tier candidates all agreed last night that the Iraq war is only half over--that if elected President, each will continue the U.S. occupation and U.S. combat operations inside Iraq until at 2013. This means that the official Democratic position is now that the Iraq war will be a ten-year war.

Now, I strongly disagree with Feldman that waiting until 2013 is the "official Democratic position." It is only the consensus position held by the three front-running candidates.

It is not Chris Dodd's official position. Nor is it the position of millions of Democrats and anti-war activists who are fighting to end the war today.

Dodd made his stance crystal clear in this exchange with moderator Tim Russert:

Tim Russert: I want to put you on the record. Will you pledge as Commander in Chief that you have all troops out of Iraq by January of 2013?

Chris Dodd: I will get that done.

Tim Russert: You'll get it done?

Chris Dodd: Yes, I will, sir.

That's where Dodd is. And yet, the consensus among the Clinton-Obama-Edwards trio, the three largest recipients of time in last night's Democratic debate, was that they would not end the war in Iraq by 2013.

Last night's debate made it abundantly clear that while there exists a consensus among the "top tier" of Democratic presidential that they won't be committed to end the war by 2013, there is an alternative: Chris Dodd. Dodd is the only candidate who's fighting to pass legislation to cut off funding for the war now while committing to get our troops out of Iraq in his first term in office if he can't succeed legislatively before then.

If you want to end the war in Iraq and if you have been a supporter of Barack Obama, John Edwards, or Hillary Clinton, I'd like to take this opportunity to invite you to join the Dodd Squad. You'll have a candidate who stands with you in your desire about ending the war and you will never, ever have to apologize for him pledging to keep US troops in Iraq for six more years.



 
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